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“All of it is gone,” Celeborn said, staring out over the waves.

Oropher moved forward to stand next to him. “All of it? Amon Obel, Nan-tathren, even Menegroth itself? Surely the Valar kept some of it above the waves.”

Celeborn laughed, “Come now, surely you’ve realized that the Valar’s only care is for the Noldor? It took one of them to get the Valar to come and save us from Morgoth - if we can consider it saving, when they’ve destroyed our lands far beyond what even the Sons of Fëanor ever managed to do.”

“You are married to one of the Noldor, you do remember?” Normally, Oropher would have been far crueler about this. It irked him that Celeborn had ever married that woman, given how she had seemed to want to set herself up as a second Melian.

“Does that not merely mean that I’m in a better place to see what the Valar have really done? You are right, of course, parts of Beleriand did survive according to Cirdan’s expeidition. Tol Morwen...Tol Fuin...and Himring. You do realize what they all have in common, do you not?” Celeborn said, still staring outwards at the waves.

“None of them hold anything that you or I would have any interest in venturing to see?” Oropher said, joining Celeborn in staring. “We knew this day would come, when we left Doriath so long ago. That we had given up any chance of ever visiting our homelands again, for the Noldor had overrun them.”

“At least then we still knew they survived. Now Elu’s body is sunk beneath the waves,” Celeborn paused. “And my brother is forever lost to me, and Nimloth strewn every way as the waves disrupt her rest.”

Oropher shuddered at this, before speaking. “They are dead.”

“They deserved better! Why should Morwen’s body rest in peace, and the Noldor that were buried around Himring, while our family rots at the bottom of the ocean?” Celeborn snapped.

“The Kinslayers-” Oropher began, causing Celeborn to laugh.

“Should we thank the Valar for that? I don’t. I cannot rest peacefully thinking of that either. You remember Elwing’s children, of course. Maedhros and Maglor took them in. Now Elrond sits and waits each day, and he won’t say a word. I know what he’s thinking about, of course. After the battle, Maedhros and Maglor ran off - Maedhros apparently killed himself. Maglor though…some of Cirdan’s sailors reported seeing an elf wandering the shores right after he disappeared. What if he was out there when the waters rose?”

Oropher was silent. Personally, he didn’t care for any of the Noldor. But Elrond was - however distantly - their kin. And kin had to hope for the best for each other in times like this.

They were silent for some time, before Celeborn finally spoke again. “You need to get back to your people. Give your son my best wishes, of course.”

“You could always come visit us,” Oropher suggested. “You are still family, regardless of your wife.”

Celeborn looked wistful for a moment, before shaking his head. “No - no. If any of us are to survive, you must go on your own way. The Noldor are still doomed, and I am too close to them to risk it. Keep Thranduil and my sister away from all this, and you must stay away too. Promise me, Oropher.”

Oropher nodded slowly, “I will.” He reached up and placed a hand on Celeborn’s shoulder. “If one of us meets our doom ere the two of us meet again, know that my issues have always been with your wife and not you.”

With that, he dropped his hand and turned to walk away. When he had walked some distance, he looked back. Celeborn still stood there, staring out at the sea, as though he could somehow make out the sunken ruins of Menegroth if he just looked hard enough.

Oropher felt a shiver run up his spine at the thought that Celeborn seemed doomed to forever linger after the dead.

After Beleriand sinks, Celeborn and Oropher speak one last time...I feel bad for Celeborn. And Oropher, obviously, but Celeborn is the one who seems forever stuck lingering.
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And faved! :D
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Gwenniel Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I feel bad for Celeborn too. Both elves amidst the ruin... but Celeborn stick with those his family blames. I like your take on Oropher - haven't read very many (if any) fics on him, but this personality suits him.
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LadyBrookeCelebwen Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes...I think part of it is Celeborn thinks that he can somehow keep the Noldor from making things worse if he stays with them, and partly believing that because he's married to a Noldo, their Doom will extend to him (so if he goes to his family, it spreads to them). I'm glad you like it! I've read fics where he's mentioned a lot, and he seems to be one of those (that like Thranduil) gets put in as a caricature a lot of the time. I suppose because he apparently hates the Noldor and all that. So I wanted to write a story where he hates them, but he's not one dimensional, and he's not a bad person either.
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Gwenniel Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
At least if Celeborn stays with Galadriel he might somehow be able to persuade her if things get tricky (though knowing Galadriel, that would be tricky in itself).
That's a good philosophy - about writing characters complex. Especially when writing characters who have more depth to them in the canon. They shouldn't be robbed of that depth, especially if they serve as more than background characters.
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LadyBrookeCelebwen Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, that's his reasoning. Also, he's fond of Elrond and doesn't want to leave him with just Gil-galad and Galadriel around (because he likes both of them, but Celeborn also firmly believes that they "lack proper sympathy for the fact that yes, Elrond does view Maglor as his father")...

I hope that none of my characters come across as hopelessly one dimensional. I mean, Dior gets complexity, and he's pretty much canonically a pretty boy who wants pretty jewelery. ;p

They really shouldn't, but Thranduil and Oropher in particular (and Celeborn, in some cases) always seem to end up as either villainous child abusers or dumb elves who need a smart wife to tell them what to do. -_-
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Of course. What a nice father-in-law he became. (Why would they lack sympathy for that?)

Lol, your characterisations are fine. And you are very fair in regards of Dior. ;p

Ah yes, the basic element of Legolas-angst -- abusive Thranduil! -_-
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LadyBrookeCelebwen Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
At this point, I don't think Celebrian even exists yet...he's just doing it because Elrond is Nimloth's grandson. (It's part of the politics - the Noldor have enough issues without Elrond roaming around wearing Feanorion symbols where the Sindar can see them, according to those two. Celeborn comes at it from the perspective of "Hey, you lot do realize that the majority of the Sindar see no differences between Fëanor and Fingolfin or Angrod and Celegorm?", Gil-galad and Galadriel from "The Sindar have no reason to hate any of us aside from the Fëanorions.")

Glad they are. ;p

Very much! And then, *gasp* Oropher didn't like Galadriel, he must be evil! And his evilness is why Thranduil abuses Legolas, because *gasp* evilness is genetic, but fair Legolas escaped it. (There was actually a really good essay going into all the bad undercurrents that this kind of thinking opens up that someone did way back..)
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I see. (And when you explain it that way, it makes very much sense. I'm not so well versed in Sindarin politics. Or familytrees. I haven't paid them that much attention.)

:D

Exactly! Those bastard Sindarin. How do they dare speak evil of Galadriel the holy.
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LadyBrookeCelebwen Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah... (...I think I've just invented like an entire system of political intrigue that exists for the Sindar. And their family trees are awesome. :D)

:D

How dare they? She's perfect and glows and hates Fëanor like they do!
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